Citizen Men's Dress Eco-Drive Gray Dial Men's Watch AO9020-17H

2201.51 PO, without orange numbers
Hello all, I've been browsing these forums for a while now and appreciate your insight. I'm very nearly ready to make my purchase. I love the PO 2201.51 but am not sure about the orange numbers. My local AD has limited selection for me to try on. Could you recommend a similar model without the orange letters? I need the 42mm size and would like co axial movement. I appreciate any suggestions.

Elgin clock ad....
I know it is not a watch but it is an Elgin I got this many years ago at a flea market when I lived in NJ. It's been hanging in my shop for years. It has a 16 inch diameter.

Will the real Endicott please stand up?
As I showed in the June incomings thread I recently bought what I thought was an Endicott that appears to be an Endicott dial / movement inside a Sentinel / Secometer case.This seems to happen somewhat frequently leading me to wonder if perhaps the cases changed over time and if perhaps Hamilton actually cased Endicotts differently perhaps towards the end of their production with the start of WWII.Here's a couple of examples from my own collectionnote how the slender lugs taper.Here's some Secometers and a Sentinelnote how the lugs are a little more rounded and full.And now here's my latest acquisition with what looks like a Sentinel case. Here's also a link to a blog I found on line that discusses the Endicott. Note this watch looks like it's in the wrong case too. Makes we wonder if perhaps Hamilton provided watches to the military at the start of WWII in these cases or if there's some other non-cataloged explanation?Vintage Hamilton Wristwatches: Hamilton's Prolific "Endicott" 19

Help with Vintage Seamaster from 1978
Hello Everyone,My father recently found his old Omega Seamaster Day Date that my mom bought for him from Gimbels in 1978. I do not know much about it except for the fact that it runs and he does not think it has ever been serviced. The condition is great and it seems to be original except for the strap which he might have had changed years ago. Is it worth it to get it serviced? He is not going to wear it but I love it, except for the fact that it is. Any suggestions on where to get it service?The other thing that throws me off is the watch is gold but the back is stainless. It is stamped 10K GFD Bezel Stainless Back. He even found the original Omega plastic box it came in. Let me know what the community thinks and Merry Christmas to all!

To those who think Patek isn't catering to the younger demographic
They are 100%Young people want Patek. The fact that people are griping about Nautilus prices and obtaining pilot watches etc means it's working. Young money wants products that are difficult to attain. They are basically taking a page out of Hermes handbook with the Birkin/Kelly bags.If they made enough Nautilus to fill in demand, the big $$$ young generation doesn't want it. Patek might have known this, or coincidently the way they operate just created a perfect storm. Let the young consumers lust build by selling them annual calendars and calatravas that are sitting collecting dust, just so maybe one day they can get lucky to purchase at MSRP a Nautilus. Young consumers love this game.For the more traditional collectors, this will be a nightmare. They are not used to this GT3RS, Yeezy, Birkin, etc hype beasts. Btw to make things worst, every big entertainer/ball player/kardashian is flashing Patek now. Patek has a solid foundation of customers for the next 30 years.Sent from my iPhon